Originally Posted by
skybolt
What are you saying? That a large LEC should concede it's responsibility to its members just because the smaller LEC refuses to make any concessions on their part? If say, SPA77 has 70 members and SPA109 has 300 members(as was the case when 77 was started), do you believe that the 77 reps have equal say to the 109 reps if the 77 reps don't agree with 109? If that were the case, each 77 member has approx three times the vote of each 109 member.
We certainly agree that roll call voting in a MEC isn't the best way to accomplish the pilots business, but you seem to be bestowing an amount of respect and honor on the reps from the smaller Council just because they come from the smaller. IOW, you're assuming the the larger Council, or larger block of votes, is automatically wrong just because they are larger.
Roll call should be avoided, just as obstruction should be avoided. If we are going to condemn one practice, we should condemn both practices.
You don't have to come up with a conspiracy theory when you are explaining a known event. The SPA 109 reps attempted to install at least one member on the NC of their choosing and their choice was rejected. Under the system you would seem to espouse, that those holding the voting majority should not use that majority to force their will, the 109 Reps should have gotten their guy on the committee. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was politics.
Are you being intentionally obtuse? I clearly said roll call was legit. However, it should be avoided if at all possible. Also no, the larger council isn't wrong.....but they may not be right either. I agree being obstructionist is no way to run the MEC; and if the only way to accomplish business is through roll call, then the MEC is broken.
As for the NC: just because your council wants a particular person on the negotiating committee, doesn't automatically make that person a good choice. Not saying they weren't a good choice; but you assert this person should automatically be part of the NC just because a particular council wants it. That's not the way it works.