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Old 09-21-2014 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You said we ended up with the best work rules, the best pay rates, etc. That was wrong then and it's wrong now. The chart clearly shows that.



"Of no significance?" I figured you would think that. When you can't attack accuracy, you attack significance.



I'm looking at the contract comparison that was just put out by DALPA. You were wrong about your bankruptcy assertion, now we're moving on to how wrong you are about inferring we have the best contract in the industry.



See above. We're moving to the next topic.



That was your exact statements back before C2012 and it always fascintated me. You said we couldn't talk about SWA because they have a different business model, and we couldn't talk about UPS and FDX because they don't compete in our industry. What's fascinating is that you made these statements at a time when you held a senior level position in the MEC administration. I can't imagine why you would do that. You were supposed to be making our case...not management's case. Yet you consistently stated these ridiculous arguments that hurt the negotiating position of the pilots you were supposed to be working for. Very strange.



Really? Please let us know why they are useless in today's environment.

Carl
FDX is not only "in our industry", but they are also in our union. You know, the "airline pilots" assossiciation. SWA is in our industry too. They are a direct competitor in many cities as a matter of fact. ALPA would be comparing DAL to these all day long if they both didn't have significantly better contracts than DAL. Much easier to sell the TA when you leave the top two out.

Regarding the survey comments from all, there is a lot of apathy regarding ALPA's willingness to take its own members input. I am very worried about C15 being another wash. Obviously, I would vote no for that. Something needs to change. But, we have been saying that for a while now.