Originally Posted by EdGrimley

Well said. These guys jump at every opportunity to publicly state why to expect less and downplay Moak's asinine remarks....remarks that clearly hurt our cause. Yet all in the same breath they cry from the rooftops that we cannot release survey results because it will show our hand at the poker table. Then they turn around and publicly defecate on the idea of "restoration" or any serious strategy to strengthen our negotiating position. Ridonkerous!

Btw, if you think in terms of what the company saves by lowering expectation via message board plants and pilot group sell outs, you'd be pretty naive to think they don't spend a few hundred thousand dollars paying guys to come here and push their agenda.

It's a low cost investment to reap hundreds of millions during contract time. Cue the "black helicopter and tin foil hat" comments from the usual suspects. The fact is, there are people here who put their own interests well ahead of gains for their peers and the piloting profession. This might manifest in the form of personal compensation, time at home as well as moving up the ranks as they prove to their ALPA superiors monitoring what is said here, that they have what it takes to take over from our Dear Leader some day.