Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
Numbers don't lie:

Alfa,
I know who you are and I've actually flown with you. I know that you are probably one of the smartest numbers/computer programs guys around. You state that numbers don't lie and I agree, however numbers sometimes don't show the whole picture. Your graph shows how much we've recovered, not really made, during the past few years. On a line below us you have SWA and if you look at their progression then you would expect that our 737 rate should blow them out of the water. In reality we lag behind them by a good $6 an hour.
This is usually where someone chimes in about well go to SWA then. Sorry I like a lot of guys have made the commitment to Delta. Glad to be here and think we have a bright future. I for the life of me can't understand how some just forget how much we've given up over the last decade. I've had an ALPA rep tell me how we had the best rates in the industry for 3 years before giving those unsustainable rates back. Well for 1,350 of us, we had the rates of whatever furlough job we could find.
I know you have the capability Alfa. What I would ask from you is a dollar amount of how much we as a group have given back in order to put this company in the financial position it is today. We used to get a memo before every giveback LOA stating how much it was worth to the company. I asked for one of those during C2012 and ended up with a long conversation with HK. Some of the things that we gave and seemed small cost us jobs and pretty big dollar amounts.