Originally Posted by
Alan Shore
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Correct, but I think that 5% may be a pretty big if. No idea for sure, though, and any manning savings generated by pay banding (should the pilot group want to go down that road) could readily be offset by increases to vacation, ADG, etc.
It was, but not nearly as big as giving up the cap.
I assume you mean pay hours, not block hours?
The only effect that allowing vacation to be pay, no credit has on manning is that it reduces reserve and/or GS flying, which reduces required staffing in future months. It does affect manning, but that effect is by no means huge.
Not at all. The more that reserves fly, the more pilots are required under the staffing formula. It does, however, have the potential to reduce GS/IA flying.
Same here as with vacation being pay, no credit.
All those little things add up to less manning required, obviously. That is my point.
As I said before, where I'm at today, it won't affect me at all, but go about half way down the list, that starts to add up to more stagnation for F/O's looking to upgrade and for new hires, well, you'd better get used to being on the bottom, when all the 747 pilots start raining down on you, while we are giving even more manning concessions with pay banding.
R.E. the 'we can mitigate it with increasing the vacation day' theory. No, you can't, unless you also stop allowing guys to pick up more flying in every vacation month.
Make Vacation both pay AND CREDIT, now you've fixed it.
Make the swap board and swap with the pot, subject to the same pickup limits as white slips, that will help mitigate pay banding too.