Originally Posted by
gloopy
Basic airline management computer science maybe.
You want to talk about complete BS, then why, even if it were just a software issue that took time, was there no back pay provision once the programming was completed?
They got their end immediately, and we got the biggest part of our limited upside delayed (because of software lol yeah right) with zero back pay.
So I'm going to call this an agreement. We both agree it was complete BS. I hope we do at least.
"Limited" upside? Are you kidding me? Tbe ADG (applicable to reserves and dh-only duty periods, both firsts in the history of our airline) is probably one of the best two or three contractual improvements EVER, and guys like you are just "meh."
Unbelievable. I don't care if it took a few months to program the company computers. All changes have an implementation schedule, including changes in the company's favor.
(Ask an old guy about getting rid of partial month moveups for reserves in C2K; those were a great scheduling deal that we voluntarily negotiated away in C2K; it was a big "win" for the company but it still took a year to get them programmed out of the company computers--see, it goes both ways.)
The ADG is now in our contract forever. Within a year the entire seniority list will be wondering how we ever allowed the pilot group NOT to have it--you know, kind of like how back in the pre-117 and pre-121/Whitlow days you could be on perpetual short call 24/7. It was accepted as "part of the job" back in the good ol' days, but is inconceivable now.
Your groupthink Moak and ALPA hatefest on this thread is leading you to dismiss significant changes. After all, if you actually acknowledge the huge gain the ADG represents, that interferes with the "ALPA sucks" mindset that let's face it, is kind of fun to embrace.