[QUOTE=Carl Spackler;1734799]Sure. Back before C2012, RAH Holdings was blatantly abusing our scope language that was absolutely clear. ALPA came out and said that the abuse was indeed there, but the language was too weak to defend in a grievance. DALPA "fixed" it by allowing the RAH scope abuse to be continued forever (only in the case of RAH) by inserting it into the scope language of C2012.

He is talking about Frontier airlines. RAH structured it such that winning a grievance was very unlikely.

Second, we used to have iron clad scope language that required a minimum number of departures out of Tokyo Narita in order for the company to continue code share. The company announced they would no longer be meeting the minimum departure requirements out of NRT, but would be continuing the code share. DALPA didn't grieve it. Instead, DALPA negotiated the language away for other protections.

Carl should tell what the code share was that made things so iron clad. It was a very small code share that generated less then 500,000 a year in total revenue. The company never stated they intended to simply ignore the contract and continue the code share. They came to us in advance and stated they would be out of compliance. They could have simply dropped this one small code share which was a penny or two for the company and we would have had zero protections in the Pacific anywhere. We were able to negotiate a new scope agreement for the entire Pacific with virtually no leverage.

Third, our European joint venture required Delta pilots to fly a minimum percentage of the traffic in the joint venture. The company has been out of compliance for three years now, and we are now in what's called a cure period for the company to make it right. The company is actually making it worse during the cure period. Prediction: DALPA will again not file a grievance because they'll claim the language was too squishy. They will instead negotiate our minimum percentage away for some new "iron clad" protection...and this time we'll mean it!

DALPA has made it clear that they intend to file a grievance when the company is in violation of the contract. That will be 1 APR next year. The company has not made it worse in the cure period. All the numbers are available on the DALPA web site.