Originally Posted by
ToiletDuck
So you're saying the only way to get informed on ALPA is to wait till you're screwed by ALPA? lol lighten up Francis. ALPA doesn't exactly require a decoder ring and being on the DL to see what goes on. Believe it or not we now posses the technology to do things like read online where you can cover various sources rather quickly. Get informed meaning what? I spoke incorrectly? Because in my opinion it's the companies on the bottom that keep the industry where it is. And before you start climbing back up on the cross I guess I need to point out it isn't 121 specific. It's economics and no amount of time in the 121 world is going to teach you about that.
Unions are necessary for us yes. Doesn't mean they do a good job on the regional level. Call me a liar on that one and then we can take a look at payscales for each and every one. Then you can show me which ones pay what pilots are worth. Ahhh but wait. I guess I need 5-10yrs in there to know 20k sucks.
Look "Francis", it's quite simple, your local representation is what determines what you get, not the organization itself...speaking of, your Teamsters local leadership didn't exactly do a great job with those 70 seater rates now did they??? You think reading forums makes you an expert on anything? Two months on the job have gone to your head rather quickly... When I said get informed, I also meant get involved, that's the only way you're going to learn the dynamics of the union in 121 environment first hand. You haven't been there during contract negotiations, you haven't been at your job long enough to understand the economies of scale at the so call "regional" level, and yet you have no reservations about bashing ALPA.
Well, pal, I got news for you, your next contract will be based on ours (XJT) which was negotiated by ALPA, furthermore, Teamsters are actually using ALPA as consultants for the negotiations. I wonder why that is?