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Old 09-27-2014 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
Actually, the protected amount of Pacific flying is 85% of what was being operated at the time this deal was struck, not 80%. Similarly, the original requirement for operate 316 NRT slots was 80% of the number being operated by NWA at that time.
You're correct, I got my 80% versus 85% mixed up with the wrong category. My apologies. It just illustrates that we keep allowing scope rewrites for lower and lower "protections."

Originally Posted by Alan Shore
Just as factual is the concept that the minimum amount of flying required for Delta to codeshare beyond NRT rose from an average of 116,400 to a minimum of 182,750 annual block hours. In other words, this trade increased the protected number of block hours by over 55%.
I'm on my iPhone only for a while. Where is this in the contract?

Originally Posted by Alan Shore
I've not seen it in writing, but I've certainly heard it stated over and over again at roadshows and PUB events. Have you heard or seen in writing that DALPA intends NOT to file a grievance?
If it's not in writing, it's meaningless blather. And no, I've not seen it in writing that DALPA will NOT file a grievance. I've read nothing at all, which is the point. The original question was one of examples of how DALPA doesn't defend contract language. You DALPA defenders can hang your hat on April 1, 2015 all you want, but that JV language will NOT be grieved...100% guaranteed. It will either be excused away as language too weak to grieve, or negotiated away. 100% guaranteed.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore
Are you sure about that? I've heard that we're not growing Europe as much as we had planned, but not that we're shrinking there. And what are AF/KL/AZ doing in the meantime. Their growth or shrinkage from Europe would also affect the balance of flying, right?
From what I've seen since the cure period started, we're pulling down Europe flying while our JV partners are putting larger gauge on. That looks like making it worse during the "cure" period.

Carl
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