btw, It merits to state (since some feel I've been entirely too critical)..

Hawaiian is a great place to work for the most part, and factoring in how old our CBA is.. it's only going to get better, and this pilot group seems determined to get their's back after a decade of give backs..

Hawaiian has some of the coolest people i've ever worked with, and truly a fun place to work. I never dread walking into the crew room because I always meet a friend.. from the most senior captain to the most junior FO. I love the pilot support staff.. the Chief Pilots secretaries are both saints and always happy to deal with us pilots and our problems! The guys who volunteer their time at the lowest levels, do so out of their love for the company and this translates to a happy work place.

We fly a great and well maintained fleet of jets, to some of the nicest destinations... There are no horrid layovers, only different degrees of good.

We offer the ability to be an airline pilot and be home every night... Very few Legacy airlines have anything like Inter Island.

We have an interesting mix of culture... Asian, White, Hawaiian, and guys literally from everywhere ... all 6 continents..

It is a great job, and good place to work.

Is it perfect?? Far from it.. are we all trying to make it a better place? I'm sure of it.

Do we all have the same vision for what this should look like? No...but that is no different than if you were at Delta, United, Spirit, Jet Blue, or Allegiant... they all have their infighting, they all have their Koolaid drinkers and their critics...

I understand that it's easier to get hired at Fedex than Hawaiian, and that for some its their life long dream... that's both good and bad. It's good because when you get it, you feel you won the lottery.. The bad is.. you feel like you won the lottery and you begin to wear the HAL issued Revo Rose frames..