The GOC guys mean well, but are generally clueless. I think they lack significant situational awareness because we bail them out by adding fuel.

Couple weeks ago we got relesed mem-den (MD10)with 19K FAT at Den. 5K ALT fuel for COS. Forecast for both Den and Cos had isolated showers. We added 5K and barely made it to Denver.

Those isolated showers roll off the mountains and reform over DIA every afternoon. What looks ok on paper is often far from reality.

Just like NQA, if there is convective crap in Denver there is a chance there will be a cell sitting on top of KCOS.

These guy will flight plan you into a box if you let them!