Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Correction: The only reason we are discussing this is because the ERJ side walked into June negotiations without authorization to move off their opener, and insisted instead, to negotiate SmartPref PBS work rules, which completely undermine the current ASA PBS system and work rules, without the ASA MEC's presence.
How can it undermine flight line when the work rules for smartpref havent even been negotiated yet? Anyway, what I'm specifically talking about is the pbs process agreement because someone asked specifically why we are still talking about PBS. The two MECs can agree to use any section of the failed ta, including things like alpa dues check off, filling of vacancies, leaves of absence. The ASA MEC decided to NOT agree to the previously agreed upon pbs process agreement. Thats the reason why we are still talking about pbs. Thats different than not having another TA yet.
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Correction: The ERJ MEC proposed it, the ASA MEC considered it, the ASA MEC said it "may" be acceptable, then ALPA Legal told both sides it is a violation of the Association Constitutions and Bylaws. Please stop trumpeting this falsehood, Luis.
You know that the two mecs can do whatever they want regardless of attorneys. Attorneys just give opinions. They do NOT have veto power over any MEC. The ONLY entity that has the authority to interpret the by-laws is the EC and NOBODY else. Its just an excuse. If the two parties agree to it, then there is no grieved or harmed party. Who is going to sue who and on what grounds since no one was harmed?
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Correction: The Company has not agreed to this.
Ok, so lets say they do, would that be good enough for you? I'm looking for your specific opinion on it. To me, it seems like a very reasonable compromise, especially in order to get a JCBA done sooner rather than later.
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Correction: The ASA pilot group has told their MEC clearly that the dual tracks in the failed TA are not acceptable.
And why is that? Really? What's the big deal? If we can get a JCBA with dual tracks, then whats the problem? They should just grandfather us so that no one has to take a concession!
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Correction: This is so far out the realm of reality, I don't even know where to start. The issue of which PBS to use isn't what's in the already scheduled arbitration. Nothing in the JCBA can be determined by an arbitrator, as laid out in the TPA. What can be arbitrated are TPA and PPA disputes. An arbitrator can not and will not be asked to force one side or another into a PBS system. Is that REALLY what your reps are telling you???
Maybe I didn't explain it well enough. What I'm trying to say is thats its my belief that if the arbitrator rules against the pbs process agreement, then the only viable choice for the erj mec is to go with flight line since the asa mec isn't willing to consider anything else. But who knows, they may have some other idea.
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
The arbitration takes place in November.
I'm looking forward to this finally being put to bed. But somehow I don't believe it will be put to bed if the arbitrator rules in favor of the pbs process agreement. Am I right?
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Actually, SmartPref is not capable of generating lines of "pure" CDOs. in other words, any pilot, whether they want CDOs or not, could get a line with a mix of day trips and CDOs. No pilot could get a line of just CDOs. It is a problem in the algorithm, and Crewing Solutions can't seem to make it work.
Ok, I must have misheard what was said. Or maybe they weren't talking about pure CDO lines. But I don't see why anyone couldn't get pure CDO lines if they are senior enough anyway?
Originally Posted by
PeezDog
Almost positive doesn't sound convincing to me
I just qualified that statement because its what I thought I heard the scheduling committee chairman say. I could've easily misinterpreted.
My whole point in this is that both MECs are just doing what they feel is best for their respective pilot groups, as they should. So everyone needs to stop taking it personal when an mec does something that does not agree with the other side! There is a process in place to get this all resolved in due time. So lets see what happens. If fit starts to hit the shan, well, its the erj side who is going to take the brunt of it anyway, at least thats what is insinuated here over and over again. So whats the problem? We voted no by 83% knowing that they were going to do to the erj side what they are currently doing. So this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.