Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I don't know what "operative" means and I haven't accused you of such. What I have and am saying is that you are a product of that widely espoused "philosophy".

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

"DALPA operative" and the other terms are slang for behavior that is disturbingly clear. It is a behavior that continually looks for ways to explain away very troubling events:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I have not accused you of that, therefore you're more than just a little confused.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

When line pilots like you, Oberon, sailingfun, alfaromeo shiznit, etc., consistently look for ways to put a benign spin on these statements, it looks very suspicious. It looks like you've been co-opted for one of any number of reasons that are typical of the Ford and Harrison anti-labor law firm. It's hard to miss it when you guys behave this way. The only question is why you do it.

I think you guys serve a valuable purpose however. Most pilots can't imagine a law firm that would target as many line pilots and union officials as possible with either promises or threats to extract the proper behavior. Co-opting a union from the inside out is their main tactic. It just doesn't make sense to attack a union head on. It's a sure loser. Controlling a union is far more efficient and effective.

Originally Posted by Oberon

Every time someone disagrees with you they become "DALPA operatives" or more recently company paid spies.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Really poor attempt at redefinition to discredit. None of us characterize every one we disagree with this way. Not even close. It's only a handful here that are clearly driven to minimize pilot costs to Delta. You are one. Embrace who you are Oberon.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

We are absolutely up to our eyeballs in Ford and Harrison tactics here Oberon. You're behaving exactly as prescribed to ensure the minimization of pilot costs. If you don't like the characterization, stop the behavior.