That's a good one ; )

You think the pilots are going to see the opener?

I can show you the opener right now...even though it will not be available for anyone outside the MEC to view"

1. Improve section X.
2. Improve section Y.
3. Improve section Z.
4. Don't give up anything substantial.

That's your opener...this way the Negotiating Committee never fails when they bring back a T/A that doesn't come close to meeting the objectives that were layed out by the pilots who filled out the survey and called their reps. It will also meet the MECs direction because they will be cowed into accepting the "nebulous and goal-less" opener that the Negotiators tell them they MUST pass because anything with real goals will tie their hands.

Even when some on the MEC actually say out loud that they expect at least X%, the Negotiating Committee can miss that number greatly but they still met the "Opener".

Don't believe me...just go read some of the C2012 Council updates. They confirm exactly what I am saying. Even the "sky will fall and we will be put in NMB hell if we vote NO" admitted that the T/A didn't meet the expectations but they sold it to the 60% anyway.

The past will keep repeating as long as 60% keep acquiescing.

I wish I could be proven wrong but won't hold my breath.

LP