That is my point. I see virtually nothing posted by Drank or Carl as balanced or productive or building unity. Anything that slams ALPA they go "atta boy" or are strangely silent if the information posted is dead wrong. Here is my other problem: This is the C2015 thread: is continually disparaging C2012 and our reps really productive? If we really want significant improvements on this contract we need unity. We are close to openers. ALPA will represent us. The first and most basic step is a 100% survey completion rate and everyone needs to say something similar to this: "I expect significant improvements in this contract and I don't expect to give up squat." Add your own specifics or pet peeves. Otherwise, as a realist I have to put myself in the negotiators shoes. How do I pretend to have any power if my constituency won't even take the time to fill out a survey?