I agree but that's not what your saying as far as I can tell, your saying that a pilot should be able to carry his sinority and pay scale to a new company, or am I missing something, if that's the case, let's look at it this way, you started with company x, worked very hard, did everything you could to make the company a better place, the next week two FO,s were hired that bumped you from your upgrade, because they had higher hire dates, form another company, if that's what your saying would happen in your system, is that fair, again if I'm reading it wrong feel free to tell me,