Well all I know is that it is awesome that we are talking about newhires going to the ER again. Who cares if they are ready for it or not, the fact that we are hiring 115 a month and sending them to a fleet that was untouchable for years is great.

How fast were guys upgrading on the Express operation when we had that? I'd bet we see some of the early 2014 hires holding NYC A positions within 3 years. That will be a good discussion as well.