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Old 10-12-2014 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
The public and management don't care if you are restored.
You're right about management, but you're in no position to speak on behalf of "the public."

Originally Posted by Oberon
The pilot group certainly does but "or else" isn't much of a strategy.
Look Oberon, "or else" is not a strategy, it is a tactic. In fact, it is the ultimate tactic. If you can't make a credible threat to strike if you don't get what's reasonable, then you are pretending to be a union.

Originally Posted by Oberon
I assume you are talking about a strike when you say "or else". A strike is a real possibility but there are a whole lot of steps between openers and a strike. If you come in saying "or else" you will get nowhere. APA proved that.
That's not what APA proved Oberon. What APA proved is that the NMB won't release you if you demand full restoration on day one while your company is losing vast amounts of money. The strike option as the final tactic has to be in the forefront of everyone's mind all the way through negotiations. Spirit proved that.

Carl
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