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Old 10-12-2014 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're right about management, but you're in no position to speak on behalf of "the public."
You think something different?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Look Oberon, "or else" is not a strategy, it is a tactic. In fact, it is the ultimate tactic. If you can't make a credible threat to strike if you don't get what's reasonable, then you are pretending to be a union.
You have to prove what is "reasonable" to get the opportunity to strike. "Restoration or strike" is not a reasonable argument. You haven't shown how to get to 38% so I can only assume "restoration" is your only argument.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
That's not what APA proved Oberon. What APA proved is that the NMB won't release you if you demand full restoration on day one while your company is losing vast amounts of money. The strike option as the final tactic has to be in the forefront of everyone's mind all the way through negotiations. Spirit proved that.

Carl
You don't think striking is on the forefront of everyone's mind? For our union to talk about striking before the openers have even been exchanged is telegraphing the NMB that we aren't interested in negotiating. When the NMB determines you aren't interested in negotiating you achieve nothing.
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