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Old 10-17-2014 | 01:46 PM
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Default What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?

Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Well, I just spoke with an Air Whiskey captain, and they don't have a DC plan. I'm not going to waste time verifying any more information from you since, unfortunately, your credibility just took a nose dive.



My opinion is that your approach, based on your last paragraph, breeds dissension and ultimately disaster. You haven't provided a potential solution. You've just complained about a number of things we all didn't like about the last TA. Negotiations mean give and take. There are items we will have to concede in an effort to make overall pay and quality of life better for everyone. Unfortunately, that is reality.

It's ok, many pilots at LXJT don't know we have a B fund either (a quick check of APC will confirm it). Unless they gave theirs up recently, they still have it. And I know PDT has theirs. And I think Horizon has a B fund also. But even if they didn't, why is it ok with you that another pilot group take a concession by giving that up? You should be demanding all our good things like we demand your good things. Or are you ok with me telling you that you need to give away vacation low and your rigs?

The fact of the matter is that neither side wants a concession. That's a good thing! We knew that voting no, and not agreeing to concessions, meant a static fleet plan (at least on the erj side). So with those facts on the table, what's wrong with neither said taking a concession, whether that's through a new TA or status quo? That's my solution and from the sounds of some of your guys, management is happy with that. Oh well, I hope everyone has a plan b, at least the ERJ guys.

So go check your credibility now.