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Old 10-17-2014 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SEDPA
Not meant to be divisive ... and not revisionist ... tell me, before May 2010, what was life like at UAL??? Where you taking delivery of new airplanes, opening new routes, adding pilot jobs??
Yes. We had 25 787s on order with 25 options, plus 25 A-350s with 25 options. That's 100 widebody aircraft or more than double CALs entire WB fleet including their 767s as "widebody"

As far as adding pilot jobs we were in the same position as CAL, both with pilots on furlough. All hiring and movement that happened 2010-2013 was a post-merger phenomenon. It would likely not have happened without the merger. You really think CAL was going to open bases in DEN, ORD, LAX, and SFO? Really? United bases. United passengers. United flying.

Most importantly we had the cash to backstop the orders for jets, which ended up being used for all the CAL deliveries.

CAL had NO GROWTH aircraft on order. Only replacements. Read the SLI award. No one bought the "double counting" of airplanes (i.e. what was on property plus orders and not counting retirements)

Smisek said CAL would "cease to exist" without the merger, and they were living "hand to mouth" (United had just had 9 straight profitable quarters) so no one buys the revisionist history that CAL was this exploding airline with tons of opportunity, etc.
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