Originally Posted by
Shoreguy
While disappointing to many, this ANC/Heavy/Over water theme for new hires does make some sense. And at the risk of alienating some on this forum, the super junior Philippine base of another package carrier has banged up a bunch of airplanes……UPS has learned from their mistake.
"The super junior Philippine base of another package carrier" flies the Airbus, they tend to bang up Maddogs.
Originally Posted by
Shoreguy
Was bashed a bit on my previous post
As it should be!
Originally Posted by
Shoreguy
…….my point was not that regional/corporate/non heavy types are in any way inferior. In fact, I used to do IOE and the best sticks IMHO were regional guys. But…….even though it is only a one or two day school for INTL, heavy and overwater are different birds, particularly at a very junior domicile. You can have a recently upgraded CPT with little or no heavy/INTL/overwater experience paired with someone similar in the F/O seat (meeting min FAA requirements). Legal, but safe? Ask someone from a certain MEM based carrier how it has worked out for them.
Virtually all UPS new hires are going into F/O seats in big airplanes flying some of the most trying equipment (MD’s) into some of the world’s lousiest airports. Yes, Clark in the Philippines night/IMC/no radar in a big airplane is different that Akron in an RJ. That is my point. Can the RJ/corporate/non-heavy types be trained and get experience to do it with the best of them?......Certainly. But the situation with junior/low experience in seat folks in the INTL environment is very non forgiving.
Fire away if you like……I’ve expressed my opinion. And it is just that, an opinion.
Do you know for a fact the experience level of the crews involved?