Shoelu -
Good on you for trying to reason with insanity, I've tried and given up. It very much reminds me of debating with my ex-girlfriend - utter frustration until I realized that reason can't prevail with a diseased sense of logic. Let Whack and Riz continue in their self-gratifying circle-jerk all on their own. It's all they have sustaining their sad existence. The vitriol and hate they spew is absolutely toxic, and yet when we tried to welcome them aboard - we are the bad guys.
I honestly hope they find fulfillment elsewhere.
Honestly.