Originally Posted by
HIFLYR
Then it is age discrimination that this VEBA was for 53 and older. The money could have been put in the VEBA trust and paid out when a person retired if he went at 60 the full 25k plus interest if at 63 10k with interest and if at 65 nothing. It could have been broken down in monthly amounts or daily for example. Any left over funds would be seed money for the discriminated people under 53 to have the same options. This could have simply been the restrictions applied to the plan much like the 53 old cutoff.
I wish it were that simple. It is, really, until you start talking to the ERISA attorney.
Originally Posted by
HIFLYR
Respectfully with SIBA you do not have to say in theater for the whole bid month you are deadheaded home. Allowing anyone to forced to leave commitments to friends and family at home for even a full month is wrong. Also the same guys said the domicile would go senior and the junior guys would not be able to hold it.
Look in the CBA for an animal called "Temporary Vacancy". The Company can send a Memphis MD-11 guy to Anchorage or Los Angeles for 3 months, or a Memphis B-767 to Indy for 3 months ... anybody to any non-FDA base. The provisions are remarkably similar, yet there was no outcry about TVs during any CBA ratification vote.
I don't know how many times I've heard this, and I don't know how many times I've tried to correct it, but I'll try once more. Nobody said the VACANCIES in the FDA would go senior. I expected them to be filled primarily by guys already in Subic Bay. What was said was that the STVs would go senior. Since we've never had an STV, I guess we can't prove or disprove that prediction, can we?
Originally Posted by
HIFLYR
I think you are a good guy and really want what is best for us as I do we just see many things differently.
I think we can both live with that.

It makes for more lively discussion over cold drinks.
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