Originally Posted by
8ballfreight
True, you have a choice and everyday you go to work you reaffirm your decision to work for a company that was boughten by skyw.
Point being that I chose to work for a union company. As opposed to Skywest pilots who chose to work at a non-union airline and continue to work for a non-union airline. I chose to work for a company that was bought by Skywest, yet it's still a union airline nonetheless and I'm still voluntarily paying dues for your benefit.
Originally Posted by
rcfd13
You may want to look up the definition of the phrase "riding on coat tails" that you throw around so much. I'm pretty sure Expressjet staying afloat off of Skywest's profits falls under that definition. You likely wouldn't have a job if it weren't for coat tail riding.
Is giving up your pay to ALPA really voluntary? Can I apply at XJT today and refuse to pay dues to ALPA while working for you guys? I wouldn't call that voluntary.
Again you and everyone else are all gung-ho about unions but none of you can tell me one benefit giving 2% of my pay to the union would give me. Sorry but I'm not going to vote in a union that will negotiate pay cuts for me and pander to United and Delta just to make some XJT pilots feel warm and fuzzy inside.
I'll try to explain it to you again. The fact that Skywest bought xjt made no bearing on you or any other Skywest airlines employee as far as their compensation is concerned. So no one at xjt is rind any Skywest employee coat tail. Yet, the pilots at xjt pay their union dues that you benefit from.
As for ALPA, I voluntarily chose to work for an airline that was ALPA so that I wouldn't ride coat tails. And you and every Skywest pilots chose to work at a non-union airline and ride coat tails.
As for benefits, one has already been mentioned in the post above. Look up DD for an actual example. And I previously mentioned a few more a couple of posts ago such as ASAP, foqa, cass, kcm, an almost every safety system which was pushed through by pilot unions. You take advantage of that and ride those coat tails.
Lastly, specifically your compensation and work rules are a hindrance to us at xjt and many other pilot groups who have better contract language such as your 38% pilot contribution to your health care benefits and subpar plans, your abysmal sick and vacation accrual, your lack of b fund, OJI bank, viable LTD plan, lower 401k matching, not to mention numerous work rules and lousy PBS. And on top of that, you coat tail ride off of our negotiations by agreeing to me too clause on our matching funds, health care benefits, and scope! So don't tell me that we are bringing you down because it's EXACTLY the opposite!
Anyway, keep using ALPA as an excuse for you to stay non-union. You can easily go independent if ALPA was truly your concern but you are just being disingenuous.