Originally Posted by Commando

Vito, I didn't say that. There will be growth in online shopping and shipping. But that has Zip to do with the Air Operations and Hiring. UPS will use the Ground Side and the Team Drivers for the increase. Like they have done the recently with the increases.

Do we have any Airframes on Order? Do we have any New Gateways? This is what drives the need for Pilots to be Hired. The Answer is No.

The only bump over what I predict as 30 to 50 a year for awhile, is a A plan bump. And that will maybe force UPS to Hire up to a 100. Which means we are in for slow, slow growth for years. We are such a young pilot group. Look at the seniority list. Thousand plus Hired with DOB in 1960-1967. We are not FDX that started in 1975 with now an older group.

We haven't Hired in 7 years. And we Hire 40! That should be all you need to know.

Look at FDX. They have sooo many more Gateways and usually Double or Triple the Aircraft parked at the ramps we do share. ATL, ORD, PHX, CLE, etc.