Originally Posted by
Cubdriver
On the technical issue we debated, I won it with references as you asked me to, you did not assent to those facts nor did you rebut them with any better ones. I do not doubt you've seen some wanring letters mixed in with PRIA requests, but that does not prove they should be there. Who knows, maybe the pilot in question submitted them personally, and that's how they got in there. Doesn't matter, you failed to supply the factual refutation.
Incorrect.
I stated early in the conversation that while PRIA does not include warning letters, they are there; I've seen it happen personally on both sides of the equation (applicant, and recipient). I provided the reference direct linked to the FAA website regarding PRIA content early on, and you reiterated it over and over, what I'd already provided, but what you did not do was what you were asked to do: show that A) warning letters are confidential (they're not); B) asking about a warning letter is illegal (it's not, despite your claims), and C) requiring an applicant to disclose a warning letter is illegal (it's not, though you claim otherwise).
In short, you've been wholly unable to support your claims, and have instead turned to one example after another advocating dishonesty, including outright counsel to others, telling them to lie to employers.
Clearly you have no problem telling lies. If you think being honest is some lofty "high ground," that also speaks volumes for your integrity, doesn't it?
Originally Posted by
Cubdriver
JB says I am what the ancient philosophers called a sophist, one who makes up truth as they go using tricks and semantics.
I did not say that. YOU just said that.
What you have done is openly advocate lying and dishonesty, noting that you believe both are acceptable in order to get what you want.
Originally Posted by
Cubdriver
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What I was trying to show was, context dictates the appropriate morality.
A job application does not entitle you to dishonesty to get what you want. That's the context. It's not a violent felony. It's not a card game. It's not ripping off a watch vendor.
In a job interview, you won't be buying a watch. You shouldn't plan on being held at gunpoint, and it's unlikely that your prospective employer will ask you to pick a card.
Originally Posted by
Cubdriver
I said it is illegal for them to even ask earlier, and I freely admit I really do not know if that is correct or not. I also said I am not a lawyer, and that's a factual question to put to a lawyer, not me. I do know that certain types of questions are illegal to ask on a job application, or at best they are optional material for the applicant to decide if they wish to answer.
Say it again.
Originally Posted by
Cubdriver
I said it is illegal for them to even ask earlier, and I freely admit I really do not know if that is correct or not. I also said I am not a lawyer, and that's a factual question to put to a lawyer, not me. I do know that certain types of questions are illegal to ask on a job application, or at best they are optional material for the applicant to decide if they wish to answer.
'Cause it ain't illegal.