I don't care if a guy has been here for 1 day of Indoc. If they are coming from 121 I'm pretty sure they know how negotiations work and how airlines in general work. They also probably have a better idea of what fair pay and work rules are than someone who's been here 20 years. Why? Because they have been in the job market in a post bankruptcy era and probably have a good idea of what today's contracts are paying. Unlike the guy sitting in there with his transition conflict blinders on thinking its still 2010. All I have to do is mention retirement, ltd, rigs, or any other line item of today's contracts and guys say "really? They have that? I didn't realize." We all need to get in the game and get educated. And most importantly be unified! The growth pony will only run so long.