Originally Posted by
Route66
Oh I get it. Morally JUSTIFIABLE indignation? Oh, I am a pilot. Oh, and I just saw the latest offer from the company. Oh, and I DID crunch the numbers. I don't care what the management from the other airlines think. They don't run the company I work for.
I had a Southwest pilot on the jumpsuit the other day. They are not happy with their management, FYI. (United isn't having a lovefest with theirs, either).
If you are a pilot here, YOU DON'T GET IT. Because the "company" doesn't come down from their office and lick the ground you walk on you have a "morally JUSTIFIED indignation" legal case. The package the company offered is a GREAT package. It's sad to see the same ole union mentality used at APA that is used at ALPA. In all my years as a pilot I have NEVER seen pilots use reason and logic in their "business" analysis of their competitive situation. MAINLY because they compete with each other.
Go ahead and use that justification in your "jihadi crusade". You'll be alone.
First start with the facts. You are the one that used the words "jihadi crusade." From then on I only quoted you. I am not suggesting anything illegal. Parker should know if he is trying to get someone to do something that he can fire them for and then hire them back after it is grieved, it isn't going to work. He is running the world's largest airline and this is a different group from the USAirways bunch. Plus the world is watching. There is no need for talk of anything illegal. Last time we were forced to work under the RLA. Although we still have to work under the RLA, this time the MOU (as bad as it was) spells out the procedure. Last time the problem was that under the RLA, if the LOA 93 contract did not expire; it simply become amenable. This is not the case with the MOU.
Here is what I get:
I have lived on half of my original pay for over a decade. This was my choice because I stayed - I could have quit. Still the dogma from the company at the time was, "We're all in this together."
I lost my retirement with no mathematical way to get it back. The company did not give me the twenty years that I worked for it in exchange for the millions that they took from me. Not my choice. But,"We're all in this together."
Now, when things are good and every other airline is participating in profit sharing with employees, suddenly management is not interested in the "We're all in it together" dogma.
One must contemplate the reasoning behind this. When times are bad- we get less. When times are good - we should get more. Simple- for honest folks. Delta plus 3% is a not at all, thinly veiled attempt to get me to take less.
This is what disappointment looks like. And yes, this IS what morality looks like. I am not surprised with managements behavior but some here had thought that this was a new day. During the bad times one could believe that management was so adversarial because they had to be to save the airline. Today management makes a choice to follow Delta's lead or go the other way. There's a reason why Delta will always be the best. While I don't expect a "love fest" I do expect honesty and respect and I will say it, morality. It is time that we call this type of greed exactly what it is- immoral. So this is a disappointment on so many levels. From now own do not put words in my mouth. These things are in writing.