Originally Posted by
Nevets
Well that's progress then! We can bring you up to our contract standards AND each of us gets to keep our separate bidding systems. What's wrong with that?
Again, both MECs are doing what's best for their pilots. Nothing less nothing more. Stop taking it personal. There is a process and it's working it's way to completion. But you guys keep coming in here and whining about it. The fact is that the erj MEC doesn't feel that your system can do the things we do. We can trade 24/7 regardless of bidding. You guys are locked out. That's just one example. So don't say we can have everything when that's a blatant lie!
Let the process work and see how the chips fall. We may end up with flight line or we may have two separate systems. Just chill out already. If your systems is really that awesome and ours half as horrible as you make it out to be, then we will all be screaming for flight line. So what's the dam problem?
I reference his post because I'm making the point that your MEC has previously agree to a process in which we may end up with two separate bidding systems. Just as the two MECs have previously agreed to other sections of the contract such as pac check, off, filling of vacancies, physical standards, drug testing, etc, those sections will not change in any new TA because they can both agree on them. Well, your MEC can do that also with the PBS process agreement. But they changed their mind now. That's the only reason why it went to arbitration. The only difference is that this was negotiated as a separate agreement and was inserted into the TA. The arbitrator will answer this for us and I'm positive that if you lose, your MEC will find another excuse to grieve it some other way. So can you guys give it a rest already?
This is a lie. In either case, crj pilots keep flight line.
You want do a history and see how many posts you've responded to PBS, using the "PBS process agreement" line vs me? And you say I'm taking it personal? Whatever dude. You're on here more than anybody I've ever seen. And nobody changed their mind. Anything agreed to in the PBS process agreement DIED WHEN THE JCBA WENT DOWN IN FLAMES. You and your MEC keep trying to resurrect it. Then cry foul when our MEC tries and protects our own pilots. And yes we can tweak flightline to give you 24/7 trade. That's EASY. We can tweak flightline and give YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT. Except Globalization. Different algorithm, fundamentally different. You NEED Smartpref to shore up money to keep your OJI Bank, retirement, and a few others... At our expense. The difference between ASA's MEC and LXJT's is that our Reps know PBS, some inside and out. Your reps are extremely uninformed when it comes to these systems. That's part of the problem. So many of your guys scream bloody murder about Uniteds GLOBALIZED PBS system. Smartpref incorporates Globalization, why then would you want it so bad? Why don't you list off the things you want in a PBS system and I guarantee Flighline can do it, except Globalization?
There were a number of things previously agreed to that are no longer on the table. You guys would've been able to keep your retirement, OJI bank and everything for 3 years, that's not on the table anymore either, BECAUSE IT DIED WHEN THE JCBA failed. So in your view ASA is doing something illegal there too? You just pick the "PBS process agreement" because it fits your mantra now. Don't worry you'll be whining about the others later, I suspect.
And I'm ready to "let the chips fall where they may." Are you?
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