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Old 11-24-2014 | 06:19 PM
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Nevets
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Default What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?

Originally Posted by PeezDog
So then Nevets, explain to me why we should even combine if we are going to have basically two contracts on the same piece of paper ? Why not stay separate forever then? Most of the guys here voted no because of the two separate rules; among lots of other things. If it failed before, why try the same thing again? It doesn't make sense.

I must not be making myself clear. I want you guys to have our better contract as I want to have what's better in your contract. If we can have that and dual tracks in order to have a JCBA, I think that would be good for us and the company as far as being able to finally complete the merger. Otherwise we will continue to be separate. I'm ok with that of its the only way from staging away from concessions. But if we can have a complete merger despite the PBS process agreement being part of the JCBA, than that's a good thing. If you rather stay separate just because you don't want the PBS process agreement, then I guess that's what we will do.

So what's the problem?


Originally Posted by PeezDog
For you Nevets,



The ASA MEC (Master Executive Council) and the XJT MEC convened a joint meeting this week to discuss open issues with the JCBA (Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement), as well as how to move forward in a manner that represents the best interests of both groups. On Wednesday, the Company presented the joint MECs a financial briefing and reiterated their desire to move negotiations as quickly as possible. During this presentation, the financial situation of the Company was described by the Company as being a direct result of many factors, such as not achieving many of the combined efficiencies within labor groups, the extreme weather impact in comparison to previous years, missed completion and on-time performance incentives, and challenges with various reimbursement rates from major partners to cover rising costs associated with network and regulatory change requirements. It was candidly observed by the ASA MEC that the majority of the factors listed by the Company as contributing to the poor financial and operational performance were directly attributable to the decision to acquire XJT Airlines. At the conclusion of the briefing, the meeting was adjourned to allow both groups to separate and discuss amongst themselves the information that was presented.



On Thursday morning, the joint meeting resumed with the voting members discussing numerous ideas, viewpoints and concerns important to both groups. At times the meeting contained very candid discussions with spirited interaction.



A majority of the conversation centered on PBS (Preferential Bidding Systems) and the discrepancies between the two vendors being discussed for the combined pilot group to use in the JCBA. The ASA representatives made every attempt to educate and inform the XJT representatives of the known pitfalls associated with the globalized PBS system known as SmartPref currently being advocated for by some members of the XJT MEC. Furthermore, the ASA representatives strived to show the XJT representatives the whipsaw that is being created by actively negotiating an unproven system and the attendant waste of negotiating capital and efforts.



During these discussions, the XJT representatives were queried as to why neither the ASA CNC (Contract Negotiating Committee) nor the ASA PWG (PBS Working Group) were consulted before XJT committee members approached the Company to negotiate for SmartPref outside of the JCBA, an action specifically prohibited by the TPA (Transition and Process Agreement). It became clear that it was an incorrect understanding of their representatives that the ASA CNC was made aware of this meeting. No explanation was provided to the ASA MEC as to why some XJT MEC and committee members engaged in a course of action that was clearly detrimental to the ASA pilot group as well as to the overall goal of negotiating a JCBA.



At one point, the officers of both groups met in caucus with the JNC (Joint Negotiating Committee) and ALPA National staff members. Unfortunately, this meeting started with a disappointing tone, as the XJT Officers expressed disbelief in the financial briefing and communicated a refusal to even partially acknowledge the Company’s current financial condition. Equally disturbing in the context of a JCBA, the XJT MEC appears to still operate under the impression that having two separate pilot labor agreements is acceptable to the pilots and the company. This behavior threatens the livelihood and wellbeing of every pilot at XJT, whether they fly a CRJ or an ERJ.



The next joint meeting of the ASA and XJT MECs has been tentatively scheduled for August 11th, to be held in Atlanta. The ASA representatives were very appreciative of the XJT representatives’ candor but still remain cautious moving forward.

Isn't this an old email?

Anyway, this is making my point. Other than the cost of running two separate airlines and thus not being able to attain those synergy savings, none of the other factors have anything to do with LXJT, despite how candidly the perceived observations the CRJ MEC concluded. You are making my point. Do you want to hold up the synergy savings of a completely merger on the PBS process agreement or do we want to get all of us the best of both contracts while he erj side tries smartpref out? After all, if it's as bad as you guys say it is, then that issue will solve itself.

Keep doing what you guys think it's best. I'm ok with it. In then end, the process will works its way through one way or the other. So why keep beating this dead horse?