Originally Posted by
E2CMaster
Also remember, stall speed is predicated off of a slow decel rate as well.. You whip it over to 60 and pull, and it's going to stall at a higher speed, even without an abrupt pullup.
Of course, do this with an AOA gauge, and you can see the transient high AOA before speed and AOA come back to jiving with each other.
E2CMaster, I have no idea what you are talking about here. When you "whip it over to 60 and pull" it will stall at about 140% of your normal stall speed, assuming you are in a level turn. The level turn is just so you aren't pulling more than 2 g's (load factor at 60 deg bank) which I guess you would be exceeding if you had an abrupt pullup instead of maintaining level flight. The abrupt pull-up or any stick pulse past the position of critical AOA will stall your wing, and it will do it immediately, you don't have to wait at all for anything to catch up.
Teaching students the stall-speed/bank angle relationship is just so students know why we don't bank excessively when trying to keep from overshooting final (You can do the math on the ground, that's where I teach all my math). You can bank 90 deg and not stall as long as you don't pull, and if that's what you are saying, I understand. That was my point about the stick/AOA relationship. The plane will always stall when the stick/yoke reaches a certain aft position -- whether you are fast, slow, level, banking, inverted, "maneuvering dynamically", or just slowly decelerating. The AOA gauge will confirm that.