Originally Posted by
publicphone
Well folks, I don't know why our MEC continues to hide specifics from you, but here are some more.
We begin transferring our CRJs to PSA in June of 2015.
already announced by the company
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publicphone
We will park the remaining 38 EMB140s in 2015.
Already announced by the company (and has changed several times)
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publicphone
We will transfer 15 EMB145s to Trans States in 2015.
Already announced by the company
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publicphone
Then, we will transfer another 15 EMB145s to a yet unnamed airline in 2016.
Already announced by the company
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publicphone
We will transfer another 20 EMB145s to Piedmont, all in 2016.
Already announced by the company
Originally Posted by
publicphone
That means that we will have gone from over 300 aircraft at the end of 2008 to 68 airplanes by the end of 2016.
we have been at 224 since the bankruptcy, and are down to just under 200.
Originally Posted by
publicphone
Additionally, the company disclosed a long time ago that with less than 70 aircraft on property, the flight department could not make a profit and would be liquidated.
source that, I'd like a copy. If true, it makes your offer of 40 jets problematic, wouldn't you say.
Originally Posted by
publicphone
So let's think this through. A few months ago, we had the opportunity to lock in 170 aircraft guarantee with NO wiggle room for management, despite Ray Igou's current lies about management having the ability to stop the flow or reduce the aircraft guarantee due to staffing.
Actually, stopping the flow was never part of that; but I wouldn't expect you to be truthful. If you read the language they would be required to park airplanes (reduce block hours) in order to continue the flow. Therefore there was no real requirement to keep 170 jets in service. Go read it yourself instead of spreading lies.
Originally Posted by
publicphone
Not only was Ray Igou not there at the time,
and wrong again. Was there for the whole mess you tried to sell.
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publicphone
So management is still offering a fleet guarantee,
if your fleet gurantee is 40 jets; then you should refer back to your own post a few paragraphs up where you claim we get shut down with less than 70 jets... so again, put up or shut up.
Originally Posted by
publicphone
an enhanced flow,
actually, we really don't know what they're offering, since Glass went to go work with the APA, and has been rumored to have said the economics have changed.... again. I do know this, the enhanced flow you THINK you know about, was not a gain, it was a regression. However, nobody ever saw the final deal, so it's pointless to debate it.... yet.
Originally Posted by
publicphone
and relief on the 12/4 caps, should AA slow or stop its hiring.
Nope, and as a matter of fact, I clearly identified on the LEC teleconference that the caps were a big issue for the folks on property in the failed TA because the company had no skin in the game if the flow through stopped.
Originally Posted by
publicphone
But our self-serving MEC continues to hide the ball.
so far, I haven't seen anything in your post that wasn't already public knowledge... other than your rock throwing, your post is little more than trolling and flame bait.
Originally Posted by
publicphone
Someone should please help me understand how your elected representatives have helped you. They have lost 40 aircraft from the fleet guarantee, they have lost most of the 145s, the have lost our CRJs and the promised 900s, they have lost all credibility with the APA, and they are jeopardizing the flow through for the rest of us.
Sorry, the union does not run the company. They have it within their ability to recruit new hires if they wanted to. We are going to send at least 240 guys to AA next year; the 50 planes they plan to outsource whould have required up to 475 new CA upgrades. Did this company attend a single job fair to announce that Envoy would need to upgrade aro9und 700 pilots next year? Did they tell any potential new hires that they had an immediate need for up to 700 pilots, and that almost 1/3rd of our pilots would upgrade in ONE year. Did they make any press release saying any of that, like they did just a few years ago saying they wanted to hire 600 new pilots. No, IMHO they aren't hiring because they aren't trying.
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publicphone
Tell the MEC to put the proposal out for a vote and to get their self-serving personalities out of the way.
There is no proposal. If you got union emails you'd already know that; but since youre a management troll, you obviously are here to spread lies and disinformation. Got news for you pal; the more you keep this crap up... the more unified this pilot group is becoming against the strongarm tactics being employed by the greediest corporation in the history of American capatalism.