Originally Posted by
flyinawa
I'd call you a lot of things but pragmatic isn't one of them. These two sentences are about as clear as mud. Are you implying some sort of sarcasm? Is it that the East agreed to binding arbitration and then thought they could get something better? And if that's the case, what should the West have tried? Based on what you SEEM to be implying, you don't have to honor a deal if you think you can get something better. Is that it? Why would any group agree to ANY arrangement with pre AWA/US merger East pilots? (I'm not finger pointing at that third list guys, they've been held hostage by both pilot groups AND management throughout this entire debacle)
Listening to USAPA loving East pilots complain about the West is much like listening to a guy explain how his wife is to blame for the beatings he gives her. You're blaming the West for the injunction? USAPA started an illegal job action without even attempting to get the West pilot's support. Remember the "Good Union Pilot" lanyards the East made to show solidarity against management? Not one West pilot was ever given one of those. Some guys asked and were told they couldn't have one. Some "Union".
Also, make sure you tell your new APA friends about the baseless legal filings USAPA made against the Cactus 19 and..what was it, "100 unnamed defendants"..in the event anyone else spoke out against them. Some of our guys paid big bucks out of pocket to defend against that garbage. And before you start making the "Yeah, but" excuses about how big bad West pilots were hurting USAPA's feelings, remember that case got thrown out TWICE, and the second time with prejudice. It was nothing more than an intimidation tactic undertaken by a representational union against it's members. Keep that in mind next time you complain about APA not pandering to you.
We are in the same situation now that we were in, in 2007. We have an agreement now, just like we did with the TA. You guys didn't like how the TA was being used, just like some don't want the company to hold us to the letter of the MOU,
because the situation has changed. I'm not implying that you don't have to honor an agreement if you can get better, that's what so many on here and C&R are doing! We have a deal. We can negotiate something better, but if we don't we will live by the letter of the agreement, just as we did with the TA. To hear a west pilot talk about not honoring the MOU is hypocrisy. Does that clear it up for you?
Did I say you guys caused the injunction? No, I said that west data was used in the case. The west had tons of guys bragging about running the absolutely best operation possible in order to make the east look bad. Before that, your former MEC chairman asked Parker how he could turn in east pilots. Those are facts my friend.
In case you have forgotten, I'm on record telling everyone that the C18 case was a travesty. But hey, why bother with facts, right?