Originally Posted by
Route66
Good. I'm glad you'll oblige me. (No, really! I mean it.)
I accept your premise that they are trying to run "senior pilots off the property for most a decade to bring costs down."
So unions, any union....biggest problem is justifying more pay for more longevity.
Now you KNOW that the company has said many times they DON'T care about seniority, correct? So if that is true (and it IS true because they have said it in MANY court briefs of which I will spare you if you just take my word for it).
They DON'T care about seniority because as of right now they can offer higher paying jobs to junior pilots who are willing to fly Captain at LOWER longevity rates of pay.
Put another way, why pay a Captain at 18-year scale when they can pay 1-2 year F/Os at 2 year Captain rates? Following the latest 15-01 thread, why do new hire/junior pilots bid off the F/O 190 seat for Airbus/Boeing right seat or even Captain 190 seats. Is it the prestige...is it geography....is it principle (or lack thereof in some peoples view) or could it be.....MONEY?
Why should the Company pay an 18-year guy 18-year longevity PAY when the guy with 1-2 years and Captain "qualified" (ATP, 1st class medical and type rating on the aircraft) will make more than 2 year F/O pay but not as much as the 18-year guy for DOING THE SAME JOB?
I'm just asking the question in a civil manner. Thank you for the courtesy of answering me.
Actually, the union is demanding management live up to their promises for a change (silly, I know

). Apparently their bankruptcy agreed to contract no longer suits the needs of the new management here after only 18 months and more concessions are needed because 2.5 billion in 2 quarters still isn't enough. Not that it would matter because management violates the present contract on a daily basis as it is, so it's tough to see the point of cooperating with those who are ethically bankrupt.
Must be those piles of stock option, bonus and profit-sharing $$$ that distract them from living up to the agreements they supposedly agree to. Pilots are silly fools.........