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Old 12-04-2014 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
The four ATL reps are in lock step agreement

Our only shot here is an effort by ATL based pilots to recall all four of the reps in favor of four new ones committed to a bottom-up culture. If that could happen, it would give a majority to the LEC reps and allow a clean slate restart of the MEC administration. ATL line pilots are the key to this. If this MEC administration takes us to C2015, we are sunk. This LOA language is proof of it.

Carl
Carl, call an Atlanta Rep. What you state is not correct.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
It doesn't matter who we've elected Bar. The MEC administration runs this show and we didn't elect them. Your 4 LEC reps are strong proponents of being a rubber stamp for the MEC administration. My reps vehemently disagree, but are in the minority. Thus the anger and disunity on our MEC. It's absolute tyranny of the majority on the MEC right now and it's being enabled by the four ATL reps. My only question is whether those four really represent the majority view of ATL based pilots.

Carl
So this is now morphing into yet another call from C20 to recall C44's Reps? I hope not. That is not how we build unity.

Just a few pages back you stated C44 was going to blow into recalls over our EVP election where a C20 member was elected. In fact there is nothing of the sort on the Agenda which was re-sent to members today.

Your strategy has no logical conclusion. Nobody has the votes to recall anybody. It just isn't happening, so why make the threat? Then if by some miracle 2,000+ pilots decided to go along, who would you try to get elected? (don't worry, I do not want the job) but, you don't like any of the reasonably viable candidates when they occasionally show up on APC.

Bottom line, Delta pilots benefit from a functional MEC. "Our" candidate is President. He takes the position (as does the US DOT) that the Narita slot swap must be handled as a block; not allocated piecemeal. As a 747 Captain you should realize that somewhere around 1,300 to 1,500 Delta wide body jobs hinge on our keeping our slots. United has an immunized JV partner, we don't. If you review the data ANA+UAL's pacific gains have appeared to drive our market retreats. Watch UAL as a leading market indicator.



... and realize Vanilla Air is a wholly owned subsidiary of ANA which is co-branded, so you can combine their lines on this chart.



IMHO, that's the big picture. We should not be fighting just to fight.