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Old 12-04-2014 | 10:06 AM
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Carl Spackler
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Carl,

First, let invite you to run and see how many pilots support your positions. .. you can get approval to run out of base.
Even if you could get that approval, I wouldn't do that if the majority of ATL line pilots were jingoists like you. I truly don't know whether the way their reps are behaving isn't exactly what the majority of ATL line pilots actually want. When Nestor got elected, that appeared to me to be proof that a majority of ATL line pilots wanted a change to the top-down culture. But now that Nestor has been fully assimilated, I've seen no move to recall him even though he's rejected everything he campaigned for.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Second, will the DPA encourage modification of done deals?
First, the DPA isn't going to happen now. Terribly sad, but true. Second, your description of a TA as a "done deal" really says it all. It just re-confirms the current MEC administration's belief that a reps ratification of a TA must be automatic. It is an unreconcilable disconnect between the two views on our MEC. The fact that you could even ask that question is stunning Bar.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
If so, how would you get deals done?
By the tried and true method used back when ALPA wasn't a top-down dictatorship. We got to see a little bit of it when our reps sent the negotiators back to the table AFTER the negotiators signed their first "done deal" in the FAR 117 LOA. The MEC administration is trying to stop that from ever happening again by ensuring that members don't have the facts to debate them with until after it passes. And you're perfectly OK with that. Stunning.

Carl