Old 12-08-2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
You can't "etc etc" facts. What are they?

You had 36 acft. Ok. PSA had 47.

2017 shutdown? PSA was told 2019 would be our end.

I agree you guys had no choice but to vote yes but how could you possibly say PSA had a choice when you just went through exactly what we did?
Does it matter now? PSA didn't start the race to the bottom. That was already in motion by many other carriers. Look at all the people that flocked to Republic to fly that E-Jet for peanuts. I see them even more part of the problem then PSA could ever be. Many other carriers were bottom feeding before PSA.
Piedmont had no choice is probably safe to say. If we had voted "no" Mr. Parker didn't even have to threaten to shut us down. With our aging fleet of 25 year old Turbo Props and senior pilot group we would've just started parking plane because nobody would've come here to sit in a Prop with no upgrade in sight. We already had FO's leaving faster then we could train them. Our fate would've sealed itself with a NO vote.

Now Envoy faces the music again. Not once or twice but now three times. How many times did Parker say he was done with them?? He beat that poor pilot group very hard. But he needs them or he'd already shut them down totally and never spoke to them again. I had a Envoy Jumpseater and I felt bad when he discussed how bad it was. They have a choice to make. they can vote NO fall on the sword and tell AAG to go to hell. Then they can say they held the line and Eagle will fade into history and nobody will remember them in 5-10 years like all the other regionals that have shut down. Then AAG at more cost to them will just transfer more of there flying around and eventually merge them with one of the other WO'ed carriers. Or they can Vote yes and have the torture end and see some kind of light at the end of the tunnel.

Good Luck! As a pilot group I wish them the best. It's your vote. Those handful that bashed Piedmont and PSA we'll you know who you are. You guys will feel Karma. Rest of ya. Good Luck.
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