Originally Posted by
CLT Guy
Envoy never had any power in these negotiations. If PSA and PDT had voted no, they would have been shut down and their airplanes given to MESA. It would have been the warning to Envoy.
AAG is going to get what they want. If you had been smart and taken the first deal, things would have been much better for you.
This new contract truly brings the industry to a new low with a new B-scale contract. You should be ashamed if you think that what Envoy has done so far has been noble or helped the industry in any way. It has hurt it more, and is in a far worse state than when you started.
Sure they have power. They can shut the airline down if they choose. If that's not power, I'm not sure what is? It seems to me that if PDT and PSA had voted no and the respective airlines had been shut down, regional airline management would be a little more hesitant to try to stuff concessionary contracts down the remaining regional airline pilots' throats in this environment. I kind of said it tongue-in-cheek before, but they would have been running out of airlines to shut down. These management teams can only slash and burn so much.
If they had voted in either of the other two contracts, it appears to me it would have been concessionary anyway, right? I mean, Envoy management isn't asking them to vote on a contract that is better for the industry, are they? What does it matter if they took a crap contract before or a crap contract now?
The Envoy pilots have nothing to be ashamed of. Just curious, are you related to management in any way CLT Guy?