Originally Posted by rickair7777

I think the water thing will blow over. Now when they tried to mess with our beer, that's where it really blew up in their faces...they've gone ten years without touching that one again

Originally Posted by JustAMushroom

Management recinded the water memo.

Imagine if we could actually get as unified behind pay!

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Pay is a lost cause. We need to focus on other things that provide benefit to us with not as much cost to the company. Examples....

- Max per diem and 401k match is better than a raise because all the money the company gives up goes in our pockets, the tax man doesn't get his cut (well he gets the 401k much later, but in a lower bracket).

- MDG: This MUST be 5.0 or greater. It will cost the company some, but mostly it will force them to get off their lazy arses and build more efficient pairings. This might require new software, more schedulers, and/or pilot supervision of pairing construction but it would provide more benefit to the pilot group than a significant raise, which would cost a lot more to boot.

- Any other reimbursable business expense ie full pay for medicals...as a business expense this is not taxed as income. Gym memberships might even fall into this category since pilots need to be healthy and fit. Parking passes for commuters, cell phones, laptops, etc...all probably justifiable as business costs.

- Any other QOL intangibles. Just a thought...a quality daily crew meal would improve moral and again be a tax write-off for the company since it could easily be justified as needed for operational reasons (no lunch break). I'm not talking about standard snack boxes, but rather a custom box with quality healthy food that would be available in hubs and domiciles. Not sure if fresh fruit/veggies would be practical, but at least freeze-dried fruit.