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Old 12-18-2014 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Where the major airline does the same thing to you if you have to "restart" at another major. You're betting on the major being around forever, like TWA, etc. The days are long gone of counting on the pension to carry you after 20 years, assuming you have that long left when you even get to a major. You are correct though, by keeping the goal "get to a major", you allow the entire industry to walk up and down all over you and hold that as leverage.

The question remains, if your major takes a dump and you are a 777 CA, should you have to start over again at another major at the bottom? Not saying you are owed anything, but if major B just happens to be looking for 777 CAs, you are qualified, have lots of hours, seems like it would make sense you could apply for that (in the normal business world). If the only "need" is for CA on a particular aircraft, maybe you can or can't get it, depending on your experience. May not be a good idea if what you've flown is radically different and there are more qualified candidates, etc.

The interview thing isn't complicated (like AT&T and kids around a table). Same or similar process for initial hiring. Grade it objectively based on points if you like, 5 points for graduate degree, 5 points for every 10K of time, IDK, it could easily be done though. Sitting around and saying it can't possible work when it works just fine for the rest of the world sounds a little ridiculous, not to mention it worked just fine when you hired in. Plenty of sims are capable of objectively "grading" events based on how many altitude deviations, how close you meet tolerances, etc, you know, "pilot stuff". I've used them.

It's amazing the mountains that have been erected by the pilot groups and how they've told themselves over and over they are the greatest mountains ever and now that management has figured out how to manipulate them in every way possible, those pilots are unwilling to abandon them.

Seniority has a purpose, longevity pay in a specific job classification/grade, bidding for work assignments in the same, etc, but nearly every other industry, skilled and unskilled, does not use a seniority system for promotion.

Seriously, you could also make the same "the world is not fair" arguments for any other industry, that you have much more experience, are a better person, dressed better, etc, but HR departments have come a long way, they are pretty efficient and have to be very objective, or face lawsuits and litigation.
There is no way you can compare a major and a regional. Firstly, the major pilot groups are not whipsawed against one another. Secondly, a pilot who has to "start over" at a major is not going to be in the food stamp line. There is a huge difference.

Currently Skywest has approximately 3400 pilots. Half are FOs. The majority have a bid in for upgrade. Who gets selected for your interview? How do you sort through 1700 applications every month for 10 upgrade slots? It's got to be fair.

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