You have a tendency only to pick those facts which support your position. By the time YOU hear the "facts" they are already distorted and exaggerated. You add your own little spin to them to push them just a little further out there and then try to make out they're accurate.

The hard numbers show Mesa has hired around 265 pilots this year up to the end of October. 36 employee numbers are missing in that 265, meaning TOTAL retention is around 86%. of the 14% attrition among new hires, some are bound to be for reasons not related at all to training. But let's say all of those 36 people left because of training issues, that makes Mesa's pass rate 86%. In reality, it's very likely higher than that.

By the way, I didn't include new hires after the end of October, because most of them are still in training and thus probably haven't had an opportunity to fail yet. So I didn't want those numbers to inflate the pass rate if at all possible.

You can quote your 50-60% pass rate all day long based on anecdotes and exaggerated locker room talk but they don't match up with the truth.