Originally Posted by
PDTpilotXX
Read the whole thing again. Exactly what I said and exactly what everyone in this pilot geoup has realized, the same planes are being dealt twice. That's a problem for both of our groups. A problem for AAG. A problem for ALPA. Probably ALPA more than anyone.
Read it again. They must enter MEANINGFUL Negotiations with IBT and AFA. Also re read paragraph 2 a b and c. The options are the issue.
it sounds like the PDT 175s are NOT from the Dec 2013 AAG Embraer agreement
Question3. PDT's contract (Appendix D Paragraph 2.b. I believe) talks about options. It says that if they exercise 20 additional E-175 options that those options "will also be placed at Piedmont to be flown by Piedmont pilots..." Can we confirm that these options are not the same options referenced in our TA, and that they are in fact from a different aircraft order all together?
Answer: We have the right to the 90 options from the ordered placed on Dec 13', the PDT agreement doesn’t specify what order those A/C would come from.
Question5. I have a question on some logistics on new aircraft deliveries. AMR has 60 firm and 90 options for E-175 with 20 going to Compass. If this TA is passed, we are supposed to get the remaining 40 and the rest of the options. However, looking at the recent PDT TA, they also have 20 E-175s and 20 options. My question is where are their airplanes coming from if we are supposed to get everything that AA has on the books. The scope will not even allow for all the options to be converted at this time. Is PDT getting E-175s after we get 130 of them? How does this work out?
Answer: The PDT agreement doesn’t specify an A/C order, it states that 20 E175 will be placed there if certain conditions are met and that the company will place the first 20 options-- of an order that is not specified. One can assume that while they were negotiating over the E175 the PDT pilots had the current orders in mind, but that is not what they secured. This is why AAG made the language change on our agreement.