Originally Posted by
Rama04
Sherlock, When you figure out his motives, let us know! Until then...
Have you ever been involved in pairing construction?
Nobody can possibly be naive enough to think they won't build pairings differently if the rig changes. Yes, if there was a straight min day, you might be getting paid for your long layover. But NO, that pairing probably wouldn't exist if the ADTG Wasnt implemented and a min day was in effect.
Staffing isn't an issue until ALL crew members are at min days off. They can manipulate the pairings- trust me!
Crew cost is the single largest factor that goes into pairing construction. Usually some performance metrics are parallel to the crew costs. Other costs for hotels and deadheads aren't going to over come crew cost.
To your point, with our new contract, we were making more before ADTG was implemented without our 30 hour day off out of domicile counting towards PBS credit...
That said...
Pairings will undoubtedly change you are correct but as previous post have said the company cannot and will not bring everyone down to min days off, there are so many variables, and yes crew cost is one, but maximizing the efficiency of there labor is also equally important. The company and union, initially came out and said this was going to benefit the pilot group and it hasn't. Don't you think that the company wouldn't have fought so hard if we had min day 4 hours and they could just give us all 16 hour 4 days and 20 hour 5 days? We have the upper hand here, the company's staffing model benefits them with ADTG, the unions analysis before ADTG was that min day was going to cost the company 10-15 extra pilots (inside info), and that was before the AA 175's. With flows and new airplanes coming, it would be throwing money down the drain if we kept our current ADTG plan...
Originally Posted by
PropDriver
IMO a majority of pilots at Compass will benefit more from 4 hours of pay and credit for 30 hour overnights than will benefit from a 4:45 ADTG. You'll be paid more per month and have more days off.
As an FO, on average over 6 months I've lost $337.46 a month and 2 days off by having ADTG. I know several captains that are losing 1k+ a month. It's a good assumption to think we'll make some if not all that up without ADTG...