The most ironic thing about all of this is (besides all of the Envoy chest thumpers) is that Delta created this whole 12/4 mess and is now having to give out $30k to keep their cheap wholly owned airline staffed while AA now has all three wholly owns on the 12/4 scale that will give them millions of savings compared to Delta and United very year. So Delta basically created an opportunity for AA to have a massive regional cost advantage over them.......interesting.