Guys, I think we need to get the pay rates up and not worry about the insurance issue. Yeah it would be nice, but the company isn't going to just give it to us without wanting something back.

If you want insurance for the first three months, there is cobra and Obamacare. If we get the pay up to where it is should be, you'll get that money back 10 fold.

Let's keep our eyes on the prize, and the prize is MONEY and RETIREMENT!!!