Originally Posted by
Hueypilot
The process that's been playing out at Eagle/Envoy isn't the same process that's playing out here. There's already an end-game set in writing for our JCBA process. With the Envoy pilots, it's open-ended...much like how it will be when this contract ends. In 2020, it may take several rebuffs of the company to get them to play ball. I think we'll all be prepared to do so at that time. Pay, while not "industry leading", will be in the ballpark of industry standard so there shouldn't be any whining about pay rates by then. I would hope that 2020 is more about getting QOL issues than industry-leading pay. Gradual steps is the key.
Actually they are VERY much the same. The same strategy is being used and so far, it appears the same results. The SPECIFICS aren't the issue, but that's exactly the subterfuge Parker and Glass hope to distract us with. It appears it has worked perfectly on you, though.
There will be no more "gradual steps". Take a look at the weakness our fractured BOD has exhibited. They look like the Keystone Cops. If the pilots fall prey to the same behavior, come 2020, we'll be in even worse shape. But, that doesn't change the fact that Parker will consider that to be a quid-pro-quo negotiation essentially once again TRADING work rules and other contractual provisions to offset the cost of pay raises which are still likely to be not "industry leading" JUST AS WE ARE DOING NOW.
It's clear to me you simply are unable or unwilling to understand both the devastating ramifications of bypassing our last opportunity to be relevant to PARKER from a cohesive union standpoint or an entity with negotiating leverage. Again, since we will have little that's truly of value to him as scheduling, insurance, disability and pensions have all been gutted, the last bastion will be scope and trading Group I for more pay raises.
Heck, at that point it's likely the general consensus of most of us close to retirement will be "why not", gimme my money !
A yes vote for this now essentially means we have just committed seppuku. If that occurs, in 2020, I'll be willing to give Parker anything he wants for a few more bucks in my last years because we won't even be a union then (well, actually we aren't one now, just an association), we'll be 15,000 (likely substantially less) independent contractors all looking out for #1 and isn't that what Parker ultimately wants and why he brought in Jerry Glass and what's Jerry's specialty ?
Union busting.
He doesn't do it overnight, but begins by destroying its foundation until it does what it's doing here right this very minute.
Collapsing under its OWN weight.
At this rate, all they will have to do in 2020, is show up at the rubble and collect what left that has value to them.