I think the point he was trying to make is, APA really seemed to put their focus on pay during this process, even in their two counter proposals it was mainly about pay. I truly think this is what they thought would be of most value to the pilots.

Now it seems everyone is saying screw the money we want the work rules but problem is it is too late for that. They could have countered with no pay raises but lets get a 5:15 day and better disability or just 321 as group iii and that's it. But then everyone would be *****ing about the substandard pay.

Typical pilot bull%$#@, never happy no matter what.

Whole situation is a real shame and they could have done better for us and the previous poster is right, when this is all over there will be a push for some new blood in this clown show of a union.