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Just trust them
Wow. Really?
Two things come to mind...
#1 - The only thing new in the world is the history you don't know.
#2 - Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
And if you honestly think that with an amendable date of 12/31/2019 that you will have anything whatsoever to vote "F-No" on before 2024 at the
earliest, then you really need to look at #1 and #2 again.
Let me point something out to you about the future though, which doesn't require historical knowledge: there is no pay raise provided for in the Company proposal for the status-quo period post amendable date. So for however many years it takes you to get that "F-NO" vote in, you will be stuck exactly where you are at. Good luck with that.
I get what you're saying that PK won't deal with us in 2019/2020. And I understand that perfectly fine. But many no voters are saying that very thing yet also saying that PK will make a deal with them in 2015 with the "threat" of arbitration looming over their heads. It doesn't make sense.
Speaking about history, look at PK's history. They don't cave in to labor. I don't know why people think they're going to this time, but then they'll go back to not caving in by 2020.
My "F-NO" vote only pertains to the scenario of PK offering an offer that does not add QOL items in 2020. They may not offer anything. They may stonewall us. But if they don't and come to the table with another repeat of 2014, I'm willing to vote no at that point. Pay should not be an issue then.
The fact is you and I disagree on how best to tackle the future. That's fine, and I'll repeat what you said to me if the "no's" get what they want this time...good luck. We'll all need it one way or the other.