Originally Posted by Karnak

I agree. There's no question the timing is good for us to make some hefty gains.

I also don't think there's any question that most of us remember how short-lived the hefty gains were in the last decade. We survive as pilots because we don't trust everything to be hunky dory all the time. With C2015, how cautious or how aggressive we should be is not up to any one of us. It's up to all of us. In the end, if ALPA is too cautious, our ratification vote will make that clear. I'm ok with that.